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A few comments...

ericp — Mon, 01 Dec 2008 18:54:48 +0000

As-you-type variable-name completion hasn't been implemented for Perl yet --
see bug http://bugs.activestate.com/show_bug.cgi?id=70782 on this.

There is a specific Mac-only default keybinding profile, and I see that
it maps F5 to cmd_completeWord. There is some merit to this complaint --
I'm personally not a big fan of Apple's desktop keyboards, and use an
old PC keyboard, and can't access any of the function keys. Are you using
a stock keyboard?

You can easily create your own profile using [Preferences|Editor|Key bindings].
Bindings are transferable to other machines by copying the contents of
<profile>/ActiveState/Komodo*/5.*/schemes/.

Agreed, komodo 5.0.2 on

SteveE — Mon, 01 Dec 2008 12:41:51 +0000

Agreed, komodo 5.0.2 on

System Version: Mac OS X 10.5.5 (9F33)
Kernel Version: Darwin 9.5.0
Model Identifier: MacPro3,1
Processor Name: Quad-Core Intel Xeon
Processor Speed: 2.8 GHz
Number Of Processors: 2
Total Number Of Cores: 8
L2 Cache (per processor): 12 MB
Memory: 6 GB
Bus Speed: 1.6 GHz
Boot ROM Version: MP31.006C.B05

Is unusable. Scrolling in the editor is achingly slow.

For information I'm using a wacom pen with click'n'drag scrolling set up for the thumb button. The 'feel' of scrolling is very different (and far worse) in 5 than it was in 4.4

Are thousands of 'duplicate' events being added unnecessarily.

Hmmm.. ok, I read that but

vdanen — Fri, 28 Nov 2008 23:29:59 +0000

Hmmm.. ok, I read that but it doesn't really seem like the toolbar is the root of the problem. But, if this is a known issue then so be it, I'll work with it (and in light of the comments of the bug report, it's not a problem if the end result will be getting Komodo to run faster).

Thanks for the quick response, Todd. I'll see if I can add some info on the bug report too.

re: toolbar buttons

ToddW — Fri, 28 Nov 2008 22:52:36 +0000

The wrapping has been temporarily removed due to a strange performance side-affect, see the below bug report for the full details:
http://bugs.activestate.com/show_bug.cgi?id=80683

Note that you can hide the toolbars that you do not need (I often hide the standard toolbar, because it's large and I'm always using the keybindings for these (open, save, ...) functions.

It's not fully decided what we are going to about the wrapping toolbar problem, the likely approach is to create a drop-down menu for any toolbar buttons that disappear off the right-hand side.

Cheers,
Todd

Screenshots

vdanen — Fri, 28 Nov 2008 22:43:32 +0000

I can provide screenshots of before and after if required. I'm on the latest OS X. And this happens on both my macpro and my macbook.

As above

jockel — Thu, 27 Nov 2008 20:20:46 +0000

Going back to 4.4 until 5.x is stable.

Hardware:
Macbook Pro (2.5Ghz 6mbL2, 4Gb RAM)
OS:
Mac OS/X 10.5.5

Project:
BIG LAMP-project (project dir about 550mb
(Including Perl, HTML, TT2, CSS, JS, jpg, gif, png files)

Komodo IDE "configuration"
Komodo IDE, version 5.0.2, build 24939, platform macosx-x86.
Built on Wed Nov 19 17:36:41 2008.
Toolbar - 'off' I've totally turned of everything on the toolbar
Syntax checking - Off
Code Intelligence - Off
PDK - No
SVN - YES The whole project path is a subversion checkout but I'm doing
all the actuall svn commands manually. The komodo-project is 'acting' as a svn-project though. The means I can diff history and stuff like that.
Project-tab: Usually hidden, because it's to slow to operate.

Experience:

Works kind of fast when Komodo is started. After an hour or two it gets REALLY slow... until I can't stand it and restart it, or sometimes if i'm really cranky I use 4.4 instead.

How I work:
I usually have about 8-10 files open at once.
The files in the project are between 50 and 2k lines.

Hoping for a fast resolution.

/Jocke

Actually none of the

jhsware — Mon, 24 Nov 2008 15:49:54 +0000

Actually none of the settings were imported when upgrading. I upgraded by drag'n'drop. Still, the old settings seem to be available in the Komodo folder of Application Support (each version seems to have it's own folder). I would have thought that they would have been imported at the first launch of 5.x.

Back to 4.4!

dhughes — Sun, 23 Nov 2008 17:29:19 +0000

I am a longtime Komodo user and currently run on Mac OS X 10.5.5 on a Macbook Pro 2.6Ghz with 4GB RAM. I am very excited to upgrade to 5, but find is so slow as to be unusable (I am doing PHP with CakePHP).

re: toddw

taleinat — Sun, 23 Nov 2008 10:05:36 +0000

Okay, I've been trying to see when this happens. I've isolated two situations so far where the slow response to typing occurs consistently:

* When editing a medium (~20 files, ~10k lines of code) Python project, typing is OK most of the time, but opening parenthesis sometimes causes the editor to stall for over 1 second. Whether or not this happens depends on what is before the parenthesis; Django QuerySet objects seem to be problematic.

* When editing a small HTML file with ~50 lines of embedded JavaScript, the responsiveness is really horrible!

Hope you can resolve this soon (i.e. before my Komodo IDE trial period runs out),
- Tal

re: syntax errors across files

ToddW — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 19:10:20 +0000

Komodo does not currently provide a feature like this, though it would make sense from reading your description. I'd recommend you log a feature request at:
http://bugs.activestate.com/enter_bug.cgi?product=komodo

Alternatively you may be able to use a script for performing this type of functionality, which you could call from your Komodo project and/or toolbox.

Cheers,
Todd

re: tal

ToddW — Mon, 17 Nov 2008 17:48:13 +0000

Hi Tal,

Thanks for the update.

If the typing speed is still slow, can you detail your editing session:
* file type(s), i.e. perl, php, html
* file size, num lines
* do you have any really long lines in the file

It would be great if you could log a new Komodo bug for this, and include this information and/or a sample file.

Thanks,
Todd

Confirming impact on scrolling speed alone

taleinat — Mon, 17 Nov 2008 09:07:13 +0000

Removing some icons from the toolbar so that it doesn't wrap brought about a major increase in scrolling speed, enough that I would say that it scrolls well.

However, Komodo still reacts too slowly when I'm typing! There is a noticeable delay after every single character, not to mention when I type quickly.

In case it matters:
Mac Mini, Core2 Duo 1.83Ghz, 3GB RAM, OSX 10.5.5, Komodo IDE 5.0.1

- Tal

toolbar

jtg — Sat, 15 Nov 2008 04:52:25 +0000

This does seem to be the case for me. When I resize the window to be wide enough to display the entire toolbar, it immediately speeds up.

A coworker of mine tried to force the toolbar to wrap on his linux version to see if it would cause a slowdown, and he said sure enough, it did.

Confirming slowness due to toolbar wrapping.

nverenin — Sat, 15 Nov 2008 03:19:13 +0000

Hi, I would like to confirm that this appears to be the case for me; Komodo 5.01, early 08 MacBook, 10.5.5, 4GB/250 GB. If the toolbar shows over more than one line, the scrolling and text entry speed is very slow and uses high amounts of CPU. With it reduced to only one line it is much faster.

re: slowness

ToddW — Fri, 14 Nov 2008 01:09:49 +0000

We have found an interesting problem with the Komodo toolbar. If your Komodo toolbar is wrapping around into multiple lines, the typing speed becomes quite slow in Komodo!

If you toolbox is wrapping, try hiding some toolbar items until the toolbar items fit on the one line (you can do this by right-clicking on an empty spot on the toolbar and then unchecking a toolbar group, like the "Standard Toolbar" for example).

Is this the problem most of you are running into?

Thanks,
Todd